EVE Search - New Megapulse Apoc

Check My IP Information

All Channels

Ships and Modules

New Megapulse Apoc

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]


Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.11 08:55:00 - [1] Why would someone put 6 optimal mods, even with 3 bugged ones, on a apoc? I mean, 120km range due to the possibly bugged stacking is pretty useless. It has worse tracking than hac snipers, and worse weapon sig so even if you do track a enemy, you have a higher chance of missed shots. What use is a paper apoc shooting at 120km when snipers need 150-160km+ (and add in aligning distances on top). Im sorry, I just dont see how practical this is. Next you will be telling us the rokh is overpowered because it can also fire antimatter at 120km in a gimmik setup. -- Billion Isk Mission
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.11 08:55:00 - [2] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/03/2008 08:54:56 Doublepost -- Billion Isk Mission
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.11 11:21:00 - [3] Originally by: Xequecal Inaccurate info Medium sized weapons have a different weapon sig. E.G Heavy Beam II has weapon sig of 125. Megapuse has sig of 400. Thus megapuse is pretty poor tracking. Pop these into the tracking calculator and suddenly your relise your argument is moot. There is a reason why snipers are 150km+. I strongly suggest you fly some sniping ships in real life pvp. 100-120km snipers are useless, just ask why t1 fitted snipers are so ineffective. -- Billion Isk Mission
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.11 16:08:00 - [4] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 11/03/2008 16:08:34 Originally by: Riaz Qaadir I have amarr BS 4 but not got t2 large weapons yet thanks, and done more than "heard it", i've helped test its performance and when your at 125km+ its tracking is real and totally outclasses the HAC anti-support snipers. How about YOU do the math, i've clearly stated real setups and the accurate stats. If you can't work out how tracking factor = ((transversal / (range * turret tracking)) * (turret sig res / sig rad)) ^ 2 works thats not my problem. Heres an example, if you think sig/transversal isn't realistic then try it yourself because it doesn't change that trend. Look. I will make this simple for you. Play Real eve and stop attending Theory classes. I hear the Rokh has obsoleted every other sniper accoring to your theory. And I doubt anyone is going to be convinced that a 400 sig megapulse gun at 120km can out track a Hac sniper shooting at also the same range. Also add in lock time, mobility etc. Come back once you have train up Large Pulse Spec, since till then, you havent a clue what you are talking about tracking. Also come back after you win a fleet fight vs a competent opponent with "100-120km snipers". -- Billion Isk Mission
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.11 17:26:00 - [5] Originally by: Liang Nuren 600-700 DPS at 100km is NOT a freakshow and nor is it useless - you just aren't applying the correct situational template. The reason that the Rokh hasn't wtfpwnd all other snipers is because there is no default 250km warp in point. There is a 100km warp in point. Firstly, such a apoc does not do 600-700dps. Secondly, there is not default 150km warp point either, yet all the pvp fleet battles have people fighting at 150km+. The issue is not the Warp distance option. Most fleet fights have people setup to warp to a covert ops to secure range and location. It is just as easy to get your battleships at 150km to the enemy as it is to get them at 250km to the enemy. The issue with the rokh is something else that we wont go into with this thread. I cannot see why someone in a apoc would want 100-120km insted of 150km Range. Just because something can in theory is not a practical real reason why it should. And I dont claim to be the master tactics expert either, but I have been in enough fleet fights to note that its just not viable due to todays current style of pvp. -- Billion Isk Mission
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.03.11 17:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Liang Nuren I am definitely not all that experienced with huge fleets the way you are, but I'm plenty experienced in "small" gang combat. -Liang Ok here is another question. Where would you beleive that a Pulse apoc setup for sniping be more viable for the player to use over another shiptype or shipclass? -- Billion Isk Mission

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.